since we haven't found wmd in iraq yet, a lot of the anti-war/anti-bush crowd is claiming that the bush administration lied about iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
the story being floated now is that saddam had no wmd (or almost none) and that the bush administration didn't tell the truth about the wmd threat.
well, if they're going to claim that the bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent democrats, who have told the same lies since the inspectors pulled out of iraq in 1998. here are just a few examples of what i'm talking about... .
I wanna know one thing, where the hell is Osama? Oh wait we were deflected by a war in ir
You are correct, Osama is in hell where he belongs.
So how is the future mayor of seattle doing with his campaign? Have your acceptance speech all written out Tramua? I'm sure the personality you've presented on the forums will serve you well in getting elected.
since we haven't found wmd in iraq yet, a lot of the anti-war/anti-bush crowd is claiming that the bush administration lied about iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
the story being floated now is that saddam had no wmd (or almost none) and that the bush administration didn't tell the truth about the wmd threat.
well, if they're going to claim that the bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent democrats, who have told the same lies since the inspectors pulled out of iraq in 1998. here are just a few examples of what i'm talking about... .
Yes.....but BUSH is the president. He is in charge. I really dont care if the democrats, the republicans, or the old man on the corner lied.
Did it upset you when Clinton said exactly the same thing when he was president? Or was it ok to bomb an aspirin factory and kill innocent people back then? The big difference is Clinton simply didn't finish the job.
Amazing how the liberals will adjust their blinders when needed.
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there have been a rash of "single people" and "dating" threads lately, so i thought i would add one more.... for those of you who are single... where do you go to meet people?.
My predecessor simply went to work.
since we haven't found wmd in iraq yet, a lot of the anti-war/anti-bush crowd is claiming that the bush administration lied about iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
the story being floated now is that saddam had no wmd (or almost none) and that the bush administration didn't tell the truth about the wmd threat.
well, if they're going to claim that the bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent democrats, who have told the same lies since the inspectors pulled out of iraq in 1998. here are just a few examples of what i'm talking about... .
Notice the dates on the quotes.rem
Very good point. All the support for the WMD was before the attacks. Suddenly many of these people are crying out that we didn't have the proof needed.
Well, party line no longer allows support attacks. Party line now supports anything remotely anti-Bush regardless of a factual basis or not.
So better to be against something than in favor of anything.
Plan your campaign for 2008, 2004 is a done deal.
since we haven't found wmd in iraq yet, a lot of the anti-war/anti-bush crowd is claiming that the bush administration lied about iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
the story being floated now is that saddam had no wmd (or almost none) and that the bush administration didn't tell the truth about the wmd threat.
well, if they're going to claim that the bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent democrats, who have told the same lies since the inspectors pulled out of iraq in 1998. here are just a few examples of what i'm talking about... .
Since we haven't found WMD in Iraq yet, a lot of the anti-war/anti-Bush crowd is claiming that the Bush administration lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. The story being floated now is that Saddam had no WMD (or almost none) and that the Bush administration didn't tell the truth about the WMD threat.
Well, if they're going to claim that the Bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent Democrats, who have told the same lies since the inspectors pulled out of Iraq in 1998. Here are just a few examples of what I'm talking about...
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others
"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998
"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002
"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003
"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998
"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002
"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002
"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002
"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002
"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998
"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002
interesting story seeing as part of the surrender in gulf war 1, iraq was not suppose to have these and it is interesting as to just how far the regime was willing to hide stuff.
hawk .
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=23&u=/ap/20030801/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_air_force_2u.s.
So the opinion from the left is so what or big deal then?
I thought maybe you'd appreciate the fact that Saddam had signed an agreement that he would not have such an airforce available to him. So when asking for where the WMD are at you might think that maybe, just maybe, they actually exisit???? Maybe, just maybe, they are well hidden?
Do you think?
Nah, Bush lied, much easier to believe.
interesting story seeing as part of the surrender in gulf war 1, iraq was not suppose to have these and it is interesting as to just how far the regime was willing to hide stuff.
hawk .
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=23&u=/ap/20030801/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_air_force_2u.s.
Yes, amazing that none of my favorite people have replied.
But I do find it interesting that Saddam felt that burying fighter jets would benefit him. I mean having them in the sand was just as effective as if we had drilled them with a cruise missile.
sen. kerry donates campaign funds to underprivileged
presidential candidate john kerry announced today that he will donate "a substantial portion" of his campaign war chest to his party's underprivileged, minority and female presidential candidates.. .
"it's not right that a few fat cats should have all the wealth," said an unnamed kerry campaign strategist.
Sen. Kerry Donates Campaign Funds to Underprivileged
Presidential candidate John Kerry announced today that he will donate "a substantial portion" of his campaign war chest to his party's underprivileged, minority and female presidential candidates.
"It's not right that a few fat cats should have all the wealth," said an unnamed Kerry campaign strategist. "If the Democrat party believes in anything, it's that money should be redistributed by politicians from the wealthy to the needy. Senator Kerry is just walking the talk."
Likely recipients of Sen. Kerry's largesse include Al Sharpton, because he is black, Carol Moseley-Braun, because she is a black woman, and Dennis Kucinich, because he's just poor and hopeless.
"The rising tide should lift all boats," said the strategist.
new york - former x-rated intern monica lewinsky appears to have on her hands a certified ratings hit with her new interview show "meet the meat" which airs friday nights at 8pm on the fox news network.
the show is based on william f. buckley's "firing line," featuring every week a prominent newsmaker, politician or public figure in a rigorous intellectual tug-of-war.
"meet the meat," however, departs from the "firing line" format in that the last ten minutes of the show are devoted to ms. lewinsky orally entertaining her guest rather than entertaining questions from the studio audience.
New York - Former X-rated intern Monica Lewinsky appears to have on her hands a certified ratings hit with her new interview show "Meet the Meat" which airs Friday nights at 8pm on the FOX News Network.
The show is based on William F. Buckley's "Firing Line," featuring every week a prominent newsmaker, politician or public figure in a rigorous intellectual tug-of-war. "Meet the Meat," however, departs from the "Firing Line" format in that the last ten minutes of the show are devoted to Ms. Lewinsky orally entertaining her guest rather than entertaining questions from the studio audience.
Guests this season are to include former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Senator and last living signer of the Declaration of Independence Strom Thurmond, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, PLO Chairman Yassir Arafat and the entire Los Angeles Lakers basketball team.
i'm not talking about uncle saddam.
i'm talking about the alleged terrorist mastermind, who allegedly fired the first shot, so to speak, and took 3000 lives in new york.
cowboy george had this master terrorist dead in his sites.
Mr. Penwell if you are correct about Iraq being better off before the war then perhaps I've made a serious mistake. Let me show you a statement issued by the EU just prior to our attacks.
The statement read, in part, "The Iraqi regime alone will be responsible for the consequences if it continues to flout the will of the international community and does not take this last chance."
An unnamed EU spokesman said if Iraq refuses to disarm, "UN inspectors will leave the country, and the Iraqi government will have to continue searching for weapons of mass destruction with no help from other nations."
Negotiations over the precise wording of the EU statement took hours, but the consensus was, as a French diplomat put it, "No more Monsieur Nice Guy."
I recall a statement made by Saddam just before he relocated the Presidential Palace in a sewer located near a lovely park in Bagdad where he said:
"We have stood up to the United States, and defied the United Nations, but who can resist the awesome power of a united Europe? We cannot afford to hire hundreds of inspectors, so we must finally comply with all applicable Security Council resolutions."I thought Saddam was lying, my bad. I didn't really think the EU could enforce their will. Now Iraq will have an average wage of even lower than the 3 dollars a month during Saddams regime.
